He who knows not and knows not he knows not, he is a fool - shun him.
He who knows not and knows he knows not, he is simple - teach him.
He who knows and knows not he knows, he is asleep - awaken him.
He who knows and knows that he knows, he is wise - follow him.
Arabia
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Who leads the wise?
I disagree with the last line. Based on the following.
If you can recognise that level of knowledge and knowledge awareness in someone else, you must also have it yourself. That would mean that once you get to a certain level, you end up following others who are like you around, and there is no real further development. Therefore, there must be another level of he who knows better, or more than me, since, experience has shown me, there always is.
I think that there should be an extra line.
He who knows he does not know everything, but knows that he knows something that others need to know, and knows how to teach(show/coach/explain to) them - learn from him.
Colin.
wise and not
Something I've heard more than once:
'A wise man knows he is not wise' .
I guess that goes for wise women too.
Does a wise person seek wisdom? Can it be deliberately found?
:D
And another one....
There is another old adage that says "If you think you are wise you are probably not" In the same way that it is said of humility that if you think you have it you dont.
A characteristic of all those that I have considered wise is that they have also possessed a corresponding humility, in the sense that humility implies a willingness and courage to reach out towards an achievement that you do not know you can achieve and to do it with a lack of ego centric behaviour. It encompasses the trust that the wise know that they must extend and commit to others.
Reversal
Wisdom and humility are perhaps not things to recognise in oneself. I can perceive others as wise, but not myself. For who else defines what is wise or not?
Does it take a wise person to recognise greater wisdom in others? Is it about that 'aha' that you get when a wiser person pronounces?
I evaluate everything I say as genius or worthless based on my self-image, which is too strong a filter and impossibly non-objective to know whether anything I say is at all wise.
When a person says something in a forest and nobody else is there, can it be wise?
:D
Appreciating our own value
Why is that we are loath to recognise our own value or inner wisdom? To appreciate that we are intelligent, astute and sensible human beings for this is what being wise is.
Is this a throwback from our conditioning that we are never good enough? The legacy if guilt that we carry with us? That we should always strive to be better and not recognise what and who we are and the value we bring?
I for one believe I am wise, not in all things but in many things. To achieve total wisdom takes many lifetimes. I don’t usually tell people that I believe I am wise but it is my inner belief. In fact this is the first time I have openly stated this. Whilst some may condemn me because I have stated that I believe I am wise I also believe I am somewhat humble. My humbleness however comes from understanding others and appreciating their trials. I learn lessons from them and they in turn learn lessons from me. In not recognising our inner wisdom we limit our ability to share and grow.
How often do we hold back when perhaps we shouldn’t, when we know that our ‘wisdom’ and the sharing of that wisdom may just help another? In holding back we also often limit our potential to increase our wisdom and our growth.
Don’t limit your belief in yourself we are all born wise.
Kate
internal wisdom
Good point, Kate.
There's a lot to be said for trusting one's own wisdom/judgement/decision, and, harking to the core of this site, it's a key attribute of leadership.
It'sa tricky decision. If I think something's a good idea, I immedately start wondering what others who are affected by it or who might inflluence it will think. And often enough, I'll change my mind based my guess at what they think.
It's a good challenge, too. If I'm guessing, then thinking about others' thoughts helps challenge and strengthen my argument. Personally, I'm a rational thinker and find this a useful discipline. For emoters and actors it may be more difficult.
:D
On Wisdom, knowledge, the known and the unknown
This reminds me of three similar attempts to navigate through what we know and don't know etc. All of which I find useful, as is the Arabia quote from you, Kate.
1. Remember the ridicule that was thrown at Donald Rumsfeld when he started talking about threats that we know about and threats that we don't know about. He won a 'foot in mouth' award from the Plain English Campaign for saying this:
"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns - the ones we don't know we don't know."
The Plain English campaign commented to Reuters, the news agency:
"We think we know what he means. But we don't know if we really know."
Which is a bit unfair. I don't mind an honest giggle at the strange things that have come out of Rumsfeld's mouth in the past, but I think he was unfairly treated on this occasion, as he was following a logical path laid out by Fernando Flores, the father of 'workflow', Chilean Senator, philosopher, computing genius, former Finance Minister of that country, former political prisoner under Pinochet, former transformational change consultant who would charge large companies $1 million if his intervention worked and nothing if it didn't, who divided up what we know and don't know like this:
2. Fernando Flores
"...The World According to Flores exists in three realms. The first is the smallest -- and the most self-limiting: What You Know You Know. It is a self-contained world, in which people are unwilling to risk their identity in order to take on new challenges. A richer realm is What You Don't Know -- the realm of uncertainty, which manifests itself as anxiety or boredom...But it is the third realm of Flores's taxonomy to which people should aspire: What You Don't Know You Don't Know. To live in this realm is to notice opportunities that have the power to reinvent your company, opportunities that we're normally too blind to see. In this third realm, you see without bias: You're not weighed down with information. The language of this realm is the language of truth, which requires trust. "
That's from Harriet Rubin's Fast Company article on Flores back in 1998, which I would link to here, as it's fascinating, but Fast Company have re-organized their website and a earch for 'Flores' on it is coming up with nothing. Aha! I've found it. It's here (It's out of date now, as he is now a politician again back in Chile): Fast Company article on Flores .
Incidentally, I once did some work with the European consultancy that had licensed Flores's methods, including his 'action conversations' method for transforming an organization from a talking to a 'doing' organization, and asked for an example of how Flores' methods can make dramatic change happen by breaking through bureaucratic clutter. They said (and I have never checked this) that as a Senator in Chile Flores pushed through a law that said if a local community petitioned a minister for a local change (a new road or something) and were not given an answer within a deadline - an answer that was properly thought through and reasoned - then the petition was deemed to be granted and the expenditure had to be found. I've probably garbled that, but it is typical of the way Flores focusses organizations on actions - on making commitments and sticking to them.
3. I can't remember where this one came from
But it's a similar thing to Kate's Arabia quote, and I like it a lot. It's supposed to be the learning cycle we all go through all the time
Unconscious incompetence
Conscious incompetence
Conscious competence
Unconscious competence (mastery: the automatic state of flow that maybe a master pianist finds themselves in when giving a performance)
I may even have seen that on David's Changing Mind's website.
The bigger point is that leaders have to be sharply aware of these different realms of wisdom and knowledge, because leaders spend a lot more of their time in the 'unknown' areas - leading people into new territory, helping them/us think new things we hadn't thought before, helping them/us overcome the anxiety and fear of operating in 'unknown' territory beyond our known competence, reminding us to trust ourselves and our judgement and, yes, our wisdom, as Kate points out.
consciousness, competence and knots
The consciousness-competence thing is here:
http://changingminds.org/explanations/learning/consciousness_competence.htm
I bumped into it too many years ago to remember the source. The web page gives a 1982 link but I don't know if this is the first reference.
For more Rumsfeldian twisters, R.D. Laing wrote a great little book called 'Knots' in the early 70s. Here's a couple of tangles from it:
"The range of what we think and do,
is limited by what we fail to notice,
and because we fail to notice,
that we fail to notice,
there is little we can do to change,
until we notice how failing to notice
shapes our thoughts and needs."
"There is something I don’t know that I am supposed to know.
I don’t know what it is I don’t know, and yet am supposed to know.
And I feel I look stupid if I seem both not to know it and not know what it is I don’t know. Therefore I pretend I know it.
This is nerve-wracking since I don’t know what I must pretend to know.
Therefore I pretend to know everything.
I feel you know what I am suppose to know but you can’t tell me what it is because you don’t know that I don’t know what it is.
You may know what I don’t know, but not that I don’t know it, and I can’t tell you.
So you will have to tell me everything.
But I can’t let you know that"
:D
Ah, it's a Johari window: the framing tool
By coincidence I've just come across that framing tool that David refers to as having a 1982 reference. It's a Johari window, with the four panes describing the stage of learning or development we all experience (from the initial stage of "don't know that we don't know" to the next stage of "know that we don't know" etc.). Bizarelly, or serendipitously, it's just popped up (a pop up window?) in not one, but BOTH books I'm reading. It's on page xix of the introduction (OK, I haven't got very far, yet: I'm a slow reader) of Robin Lawton's book 'Creating a Customer-Centered Culture'.
It's also on page 2 (I've read past that page: honest) of Charles Handy's "Myself and other more important matters", where he (Handy) says it is called a Johari window after two social psychology professors called Joe and Harry who first drew a square divided into four 'window panes' to describe how people see us versus how we see ourselves.
All four panes together represent the different elements of your self, as you and others see you. But, nobody sees the whole you, because there are bits of you unknowable to others and there are aspects of you that others see that you don't see yourself. That's me totally confused, then. Not really: As Handy points out, we all become much better-functioning people (leaders) when we maximise the size of the pane representing 'Known to Others and Known to Oneself' as that maximizes the consonance or consistency between the 'you' that you present to others and the 'you' that you present to yourself. That's where authentic leadership, as Bill George calls it, comes from.
I'm going to lie down and rest my brain now.